Thursday, September 18, 2008

attraction Points

START HERE, NO WAY I GET ALL DATA, JPY and QQQ coming
1249 1245 1239 1231 spx 1266 1269 1276 1283
107.179 106.949 106.575 106.112 jpy 108.150 108.380 108.752 109.217
42.5 42.2 41.7 41.1 QQQQ 43.9 44.2 44.7 45.4
1.436 1.434 1.431 1.427 eur 1.445 1.447 1.451 1.455

Dear Public, you just saw the things that you should not do. for one do not try to catch the moving train ( or market). they will hurt you. For two, if you have profits you always need to think how would you balance/protect that in the off hours ( that is when they will run up the markets and hand you the facts on the open). For that you may need to be able to match your holdings, as closely as possible, with the futures instruments you can use. For example if your mix is TECH type, NQ futures may protect you for about $50000 worth ( so you have tech stocks of that amount , you just short the NQ futures for that amount to protect gains! got that?). We want you to know what to do, because nobody else will teach you. Everybody likes you as ignorant as you can be. Not US!

36 comments:

lagscrew said...

both trading accounts--waterhouse and harris direct are locked up

tried to buy srs on the open--so far would have netted 10%

nothing but crooks

Blaine said...

Lag, my brokers were locked up, too. Had to call in my panic my sell order DDM at the open. Out at $61.

D said...

exactly lag...

65 was a sweet entry on SRS and REITS aren't on the short-ban list.

the next decline should disproportionately effect them.

boris said...

Dear Readers,
Yes, the have all stacked up the orders and sold it to the uninitated public. That is so simple.

The always get them. One way or the other.

That is why you want to be in liquid staff.

I have, actually used futures to protext the gains.

And I will try to sell the leasurly with the SPX futures backing them up.

BASTaRDS

good Trading

diesel said...

Interesting thats there isn't any liquidity in anything but the big stuff. Huge bid/ask spreads.

lagscrew said...

looks like I got an order for srs when it locked up--Im up 10% now so will try to sell it

D said...

The house wins until it's burnt down.

boris said...

Dear Damien,
They know the public ( average joe and jane ) have the orders flying in like crazy, so they stack them up and make money ...

1) on the UPPED security
2) make even more by making you pay the spread

Good trading

I just wrote what you need to do to manage that, but not everybody can do. Those that are willing to learn can contact me.

lagscrew said...

was able to sell srs now and goldman sachs so net gain was a bunch--

אנטי-סופיטליסט said...

Well the bastards took me out of my call options yesterday because I set my stop at the lows and they turned it down andtook me out and rallied up 1000 points from trough to this mornings peak. I stayed in cash and still in cash. If you are on the wrong side of this bullshit you won't have anything left. will buy at 1070 and play it there. waldo.

John said...

Boris,

Your warning is one reason I prfer to day trade. I obviously do not make as much but as I said before , much easier to sleep at night.

old john

lagscrew said...

In small account see I did get an order for SRS @67.24 and just dumped it for 77.85

John said...

Lagscrew,

they halted SKF

old john

boris said...

Dear John,
Fortunately for you are becoming good and have time ( very important).

Others do not and that is a problem with the Strictly day trading.

Even so, some people will not day trade all their money and will invest.

So, Yes, ideally would be great if everybody could protect that way.

Practically it is difficult

Dear John,thanks
and Good Trading

lagscrew said...

John

Ive been lucky lately like now not having SKF

John said...

Boris,

I agree totally, time is a most important factor. That along with Patience and you.

I think "They" are desperately hiding something. I have no idea what it is but to see all the politicians on the bandwagon, makes me very suspicious.

old john

John said...

Boris,

I agree totally, time is a most important factor. That along with Patience and you.

I think "They" are desperately hiding something. I have no idea what it is but to see all the politicians on the bandwagon, makes me very suspicious.

old john

boris said...

Dear waldo,
You get them next time.
It is all learning experience.
GOod Trading

D said...

I wasn't touching financials because it was the tough money after July 15th... Call me a bully, but I like picking on easy targets.

D said...

major divergence back on equity put-call and index put-call

jimww said...

Dear Boris I am dishearted , I feel I can not compete with the crime masters in the government and wall street and all these new rules about not shorting etc, yes I was expecting a good size bounce but this is crazy cow poop , all I see is a monster of inflation comeing in a few years coupled with hubberts peak oil production starting in 2012
, what is so wrong with lower house prices,first time buyers, lower property taxes ect,WHAT GOOD IS IT if the DOW IS 16000 but the PRICE of bread is $8.00 a loaf I feel the evil people have won today! Do you have a word of hope for a small person in this crazy world of deception? I feel the low in the stock market was made yesterday and I missed it . It just moved to fast for me and with the overnite gap and I thought sorta with you the low would be made with the end of the september quater. I guess what I am asking does the fates with their DICE look for a proper lower low or do the Dice say the roll was made yesterday higher prices for everyone here comes the bull market inflation! If you have not formed an opinon yet that is ok , maybe this SUNday? Your friend in Phoenix Arizona Jim.

John said...

Jim,,
Don't be disheartened. The YBR will give you another chance.
So you live in Phoenix, I have been trying to move there since I retired. I live in Chicago and cannot sell my house. Maybe Congress will buy my house? I will write Paulson and ask if he wants a little 3bdrm home that I worked 2 jobs to buy.

old john

boris said...

Dear Jim,
I am afraid the little guy has only one choice to learn and learn hard. We give the gift everyday on this site. Even a man/woman with modes means can follow my market comments and the dos and do nots. I do not claim to be MOSEs, but I try to help the masses. I hope everybody here, does not retain this secret site as "theirs only" and spreads the knowledge of us being here.

It is true , we try to keep the currency/metals/oil markets out of the open, but stock market is big enough for us to live with open space here.


SO SPREAD THE WORD ;

Be part of help not hinderence.
this message above is for everybody.

Now, missing the bottom.

Please, I can not go into this again and again.

Bottom should be a process for you in mind not a time and place.

I do not think you give yourself chance if you think you and I will catch exact bottoms all the time( we did it few times did not we) more reason to understand the BOTTOMING process .

groups bottom differently.

Financials bled first.

Remember my prophecy "biggest banking heist of 21 st century" ?

well those who do not can find it on the internet.

Then came the transportation and then came the energy and then came the utilities and so on and so on.

Like I told the John many times , please accumulate what you want. Go shppoing everyday and see what is for sale.

Same in the market.

I have stated already that, I give higher priority to retest and even new lows, but it is on the thinner ice from here.

No more screaming probability

Good Trading

אנטי-סופיטליסט said...

John, if you are not one of the wall street guru's paulson wouldn't even give you the time of day. If this nonsense keeps up we will be paying a lot more than 8.00 dollars for a loaf of bread. The foreign govts has us right where they want us. By the time they get done with the united states the indians won't even want it back. They would have to many bodies to bury. I'm mad has hell and I am not going to take it anymore. waldo.

אנטי-סופיטליסט said...

Dear Boris/Waldo,

I am in same shoes,Waldo. Sold out my calls on first half drop. Have quadrupled since.Got stopped out twice on yen and once on euro before drops.But my yen puts are clicking green now and I still have
3 months.
Another aspect of protecting one self is to be prepared for an exchange shutdown or brokerage data transmission problem. If for some reason you can't place an order on CME (ESM) then you might be able to offset on CBOT (Dow futures). And sometimes the broker
may have problems,so a second firm could be used as a backup. Anything can happen.In the future things may get worse.It is important to watch how markets, electronics and the sopitalists behave and be prepared for the Black Swan. Last weekend I got educated in coin buying.
Boris' futures charts are valuable,
but his strategy/tactics/money management are priceless. I know from your previous calls Boris that there is a good probability of the SPX being close to 1414 next Sept. But to enjoy that point
I need to focus on the now.
Keep up the great work,Boris. And congratulations to all who captured
those winning trades this week.
Good trading to all.
Klaatu

Tina1000 said...

All this intervention makes me think why are they so desperate. Flat now, sold my puts yesterday, and took profits from some longs today. Now, I´ll take a rest and see how things will develop, it has been quite a ride this week. Boris and all, thanks for your input here, greatly appreciated.
Cheers from Helsinki,
Tina

אנטי-סופיטליסט said...

And another thing, we are only on this earth for so long and eternatity is forever and may all the bastards that put us in this condition rot in hell. Waldo.

John said...

Boris,

I did not get everything I wanted on my last shopping trip, I believe in the YBR, another chance will come. Did fine with DVY.

old john

boris said...

Dear Waldo,
It is your kind of frastration that eventually pushed me to create this site.

Somebody need to speak for people.

I wish I could be doing better job,
But , at least, I do.

Good Trading

boris said...

Dear Klaatu,
Wondeful man.
Have a wonderful weekend.
I'l keep trying.

GOod Trading

boris said...

Dearest Tina,
Good To hear from you.
we let you speak when you want, but prefer you speak more often(:-

Really Love my dear Tina.
Enjoy your weekend in your loved corners of Helsinki

Glad you take your "taxes=gains" from SOPITALISTS

Good Trading

jimww said...

Dear John I hope you do make it out to Phoenix someday great place for 7 months a year ,hot as hell for 4 months a year but then you can escape to San Diego for two weeks a year just a 6 hr drive or the mountains of northern Arizona two hour drive . I live in the heart of Phoenix just north of the airport if you have any qwestions just ask ,I have lived in Arizona most of my life a true westerner would like to help any reader if I can , I helping a person from chicago right now find a house. Jim

אנטי-סופיטליסט said...

Boris, you do the best of calling the direction of the markets that I have ever seen and I have been around a long time. It is just so hard to buy when the world looks like it is coming down around you and hard to sell when things looks like roses but it is very difficult for me to trade these maddening swings but that is how professional traders make there money by taking from the little guy and giving to the big guy. If it wasn't for you helping the small investor or trader out there I know of no one else that does it as good as you. waldo.

jimww said...

Dear Boris Thank you for all that you do I am ALWAYS trying to learn and to see future I just feel that you are a better person at seeing the future right now , your sage advice is not just for me , but all readers that is why I ask! I knew they would scew the put holders , I just did not see this extra 450 points overnite rise. Sigh. maybe next time and I do steer people to you , I just wanted to make a quick buck to give you money and be square with you . I am a giver not a taker..Jim

jimww said...

Dear Tina I hope that you got some LDK and BTU those are the future long term , STP is a fine company, please due your dillagince. Jim

boris said...

Dear Jim,
Do not worry.
You are in good standing with me.

I did not see the extra 50 points either. I thought it will be saved for next TUESDAY.

Well they decided to do it all at once. But I did mention the exact numbers reached today.

GOod Trading My Dear Friend Jim